h1techSlave
02-02 04:14 PM
Since we are in a fighting mood, I will throw some fuel to the fire :) :)
When you think about it, reservation and quota system is actually a better deal for the upper caste.
First check out this picture, which details the population percentages and proposed reservations: File:PopulationEstimations.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PopulationEstimations.jpg)
As per the above picture, 52% of people in India belongs to Backward classes according to Mandal estimates. Since the proposed reservation for them is 27%, the reservation system works in favor of Forward classes as long as Backward classes are not uplifted from their current pathetic situation. Another way of looking at the graph is that 25.5% of people in India belongs to forward classes; and their share in the Indian pie in terms of higher education of job opportunities --> (100 - 27 - 22.5 = 50.5%). Personally I like this system, than 25.5% of us getting only 25.5% of our share.
To conclude:
If reservations stays; 25% upper caste can enjoy 50% of resources.
If reservation system goes away due to uplifting of backward classes; 25% of upper caste will have to satisfy themselves with only 25% of resources.
When you think about it, reservation and quota system is actually a better deal for the upper caste.
First check out this picture, which details the population percentages and proposed reservations: File:PopulationEstimations.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PopulationEstimations.jpg)
As per the above picture, 52% of people in India belongs to Backward classes according to Mandal estimates. Since the proposed reservation for them is 27%, the reservation system works in favor of Forward classes as long as Backward classes are not uplifted from their current pathetic situation. Another way of looking at the graph is that 25.5% of people in India belongs to forward classes; and their share in the Indian pie in terms of higher education of job opportunities --> (100 - 27 - 22.5 = 50.5%). Personally I like this system, than 25.5% of us getting only 25.5% of our share.
To conclude:
If reservations stays; 25% upper caste can enjoy 50% of resources.
If reservation system goes away due to uplifting of backward classes; 25% of upper caste will have to satisfy themselves with only 25% of resources.
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subba
07-07 09:40 PM
This is what my lawyer mailed us today (I have always had good service from him):
In my very initial thoughts, on July 2 and July 3, I believed the lawsuit had no chance; but in following this more closely and doing my own research, I think increasingly that the lawsuit has merit. USCIS and DOS appear to have violated various of its internal rules and arguably actual statutes and regulations in handling all this.
Not that I am holding my breath, but just wanted pass it on....
In my very initial thoughts, on July 2 and July 3, I believed the lawsuit had no chance; but in following this more closely and doing my own research, I think increasingly that the lawsuit has merit. USCIS and DOS appear to have violated various of its internal rules and arguably actual statutes and regulations in handling all this.
Not that I am holding my breath, but just wanted pass it on....
bestia
12-16 10:19 PM
Gym, yoga, work, birds - these things are just escape from reality. The reality is pretty grim. Imagine a new wanna be immigrant. He/she has basically two choices:
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
1. Ask for asylum, come up with some story, try to get interview passed. If works - then that's it. If not, ask judge for work permit (usually they grant). And go through hearings, appeals, etc. etc. - takes total 5 years. Meanwhile, work whenever you want. make money, find a girl (or a guy for girls), marry - get your GC. At worst case scenario - you get caught, put on deportation, you cash your credit cards - and leave with $200k in your pocket. So, at worst - you get deported - which is fair.
2. You read the law, you see that your only legal option is EB and you spend 6-8 years going through H1/LC/140/485, etc. Lose money, pay lawyers, pay taxes, miss opportunities. Even after you get GC, some douche bag IO might have a bad day, review your LC/140 and revoke it at any time until you get citizenship for some little reason. Even citizenship may be revoked because of "fraud". How many of you have LC done completely honestly, with interviewing all candidates and stuff like that? Meanwhile, if your company/lawyer screwed something up - you get deported, and you lost 10 best years of your life for nothing. In best case scenario, you get GC - which is fair.
So in 1st case we have fair-win situation, in second - lose-fair. So, can anybody give me ONE reason why we chose 2nd way? Please don't start with "good karma" and things like that. But for real? What is that? What message USCIS is sending us? America is a country of law or a country of criminal opportunists?
To me personally, this immigration thing is just a matter of principle, I'm not leaving without GC, period. I'm ready to have any of my stuff revoked, I'm ready for court battles - at the end I will marry a citizen. Reason? I don't wanna feel being a loser.
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Michigan123
05-12 01:40 PM
I am waiting for FP .Even I have called TSC having intention to open SR ,i got the reply all files are up to date and they can not open SR for FP ...Files indicate that FP is complete.(God knows what they mean,whose fingerprint they have on my file) ....I have not given any FP so far except at the PORT of entry .
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pappu
12-11 10:41 AM
I am a physician working in underserved areas in MN. I am greatly appreciated
in my community. I regularly get invited to Christmas parties by local congressmen. I never attend those due to my family obligations. However, this year I will attend and educate my congressmen as much as I can.
I am sure there are lot of physicians, like me affected by retrogression. Eventhough we live in remote areas, we can do whtever we can.
I am also willing to join in MN local chapter of IV. Any MN members kindly send me PM.
pls post your note on the Mn local state chapter thread and get in touch with other members.
we have several physicians as IV members. We do want to bring in several more. Help IV by getting morefrom your profession. thanks
in my community. I regularly get invited to Christmas parties by local congressmen. I never attend those due to my family obligations. However, this year I will attend and educate my congressmen as much as I can.
I am sure there are lot of physicians, like me affected by retrogression. Eventhough we live in remote areas, we can do whtever we can.
I am also willing to join in MN local chapter of IV. Any MN members kindly send me PM.
pls post your note on the Mn local state chapter thread and get in touch with other members.
we have several physicians as IV members. We do want to bring in several more. Help IV by getting morefrom your profession. thanks
english_august
07-11 02:02 PM
I think the biggest 'thank you' belongs to Chidananda Rajghatta of the Times of India as far as the media is concerned. After all, it was his report in TOI that lit a fire under this campaign!
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snathan
05-01 12:38 PM
gc_on_demand,
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
When you have the PD for primary as 2009 in EB2. He might be getting the GC in 3-4 years. But if you count the spouse in FB it will be another five years. Specially when you count the Spouse agaist the FB it will increase the back log.
So one of the IV agenda is remove counting the spouse/children against the quota. So we dont need to have all this mess.
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
When you have the PD for primary as 2009 in EB2. He might be getting the GC in 3-4 years. But if you count the spouse in FB it will be another five years. Specially when you count the Spouse agaist the FB it will increase the back log.
So one of the IV agenda is remove counting the spouse/children against the quota. So we dont need to have all this mess.
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mbsac
10-04 01:01 PM
Hello,
My application reached USCIS on July 5th, at 11.11 am at Nebraska SC signed by F.HEINAUER. But so far Checks have not been cashed
I have added myself to the List
Originally Posted by Rohan99
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
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Rohan99
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bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
mbsac
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcspace
July 13, at 11.11 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
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gcnm04
July 16, at 11.16 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
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fetch_gc
Please see signature for more details.Thx-- fetch_gc
My application reached USCIS on July 5th, at 11.11 am at Nebraska SC signed by F.HEINAUER. But so far Checks have not been cashed
I have added myself to the List
Originally Posted by Rohan99
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
--------------------------------------------------------
lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
mbsac
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcspace
July 13, at 11.11 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
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gcnm04
July 16, at 11.16 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
------------------------------------------------------
fetch_gc
Please see signature for more details.Thx-- fetch_gc
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cr52401
06-09 07:11 PM
My recipect number start from SRC. whrere is that center? I thought texas starts with TSC.
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diptam
06-27 10:11 AM
I know - some companies are like that. My company is a chutia, harami desi body shop ... They does it with everyone i believe ...
Sorry for the words !!
The VP signed the letter and asked me to let him know when I get green card. He will throw a party to celebrate!
Sorry for the words !!
The VP signed the letter and asked me to let him know when I get green card. He will throw a party to celebrate!
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smuggymba
07-20 11:50 AM
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because you they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
ok, let me put the matter to rest before you take it out of context. My observation was based on the thread that we had for collecting the amount..I didn't see many EB3 folks contribute dollars....but now that 2 EB3 are vouching that enough EB3 folks contibuted, that's great. I just observed something and if it hurt you right down the spine, sorry. I filed PERM 3 months ago, I'm far off in this process. Just focus on advocay so that everyone gets their GCs. Good luck. I hate this EB2 vs EB3, this is a never ending debate. Just hope everyone gets their GC in time.
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because you they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
ok, let me put the matter to rest before you take it out of context. My observation was based on the thread that we had for collecting the amount..I didn't see many EB3 folks contribute dollars....but now that 2 EB3 are vouching that enough EB3 folks contibuted, that's great. I just observed something and if it hurt you right down the spine, sorry. I filed PERM 3 months ago, I'm far off in this process. Just focus on advocay so that everyone gets their GCs. Good luck. I hate this EB2 vs EB3, this is a never ending debate. Just hope everyone gets their GC in time.
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chanduv23
08-26 12:51 PM
May be not true, my case assgined to officer on june 29th and no news yet. But I wish Ski_dude12 good luck.
Did you try Ombudsman route? It may take a few more weeks, I guess it is worth a try.
Did you try Ombudsman route? It may take a few more weeks, I guess it is worth a try.
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vij
06-08 05:45 PM
How long does it take to get the notification letter once checks are cleared
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greenkard
03-15 02:29 PM
already did that. Is calling the only thing at the moment? Why don't you let EB3 guys talk a little?
My friend suggested this forum. Looks to be very good site and seems to be active. I am EB# from India.
Can you tell me why EB3 is lagging so much
My friend suggested this forum. Looks to be very good site and seems to be active. I am EB# from India.
Can you tell me why EB3 is lagging so much
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chanduv23
07-08 09:35 AM
Folks have you noticed the options on dice when you have to fill up your profile. makes you choose if you are EAD or GC or Citizen or h1b or any other. Now, does it not create a situation where employers can filter you?
In all other websites like Monster, hotjobs etc... the choices are
(1) Authorized to work for any employer
(2) Authorized to work for currrent employer
.....
.....
which makes more sense.
Has anyone noticed this?
In all other websites like Monster, hotjobs etc... the choices are
(1) Authorized to work for any employer
(2) Authorized to work for currrent employer
.....
.....
which makes more sense.
Has anyone noticed this?
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02-09 04:03 PM
Another $50 from me...Go IV..
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Transaction ID: 2AC49278S4623223J
Thank you Ashish, total is now $534.00
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n2b
08-14 08:29 AM
We have received FP notices for our 485 applications that reached USCIS on July 2nd (EB2/India)
Good luck to all other IV folks.
what is ur FP date & location? thank you.
Good luck to all other IV folks.
what is ur FP date & location? thank you.
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insbaby
09-23 04:03 PM
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* are expected to move slowly
* is expected to move very slowly
* is expected to remain unchanged
* to move very slowly forward
I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
* are expected to move slowly
* is expected to move very slowly
* is expected to remain unchanged
* to move very slowly forward
I love english. You can say the same thing in 10 different ways without hurting others.
-- He could have done it with just two words as "Forget it" and closed the meeting.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-26 09:29 AM
I was told by IO at info pass that my case was with an officer on Aug 05 , got CPO on 25
i had a SLUD on AUG 21 ,
Thanks
In most cases the next action after CPO mail was within 5-7 business days. So keep your fingers crossed for the welcome mail. Follow the postman for your card arrival.
For me it happend within a span 11 regular days from CPO mail. 5th day after CPO mail, I got welcome notice in the mail and then 6th day from there I got my cards in the mail.
By the way, the online status still stays and it is in post decision activity. That is 12 days after I received my physical cards.
i had a SLUD on AUG 21 ,
Thanks
In most cases the next action after CPO mail was within 5-7 business days. So keep your fingers crossed for the welcome mail. Follow the postman for your card arrival.
For me it happend within a span 11 regular days from CPO mail. 5th day after CPO mail, I got welcome notice in the mail and then 6th day from there I got my cards in the mail.
By the way, the online status still stays and it is in post decision activity. That is 12 days after I received my physical cards.
aj1234567
10-04 06:16 PM
Hi
Any body got finger print appointment letter who filed on Aug3.
Thanks
AJ
Any body got finger print appointment letter who filed on Aug3.
Thanks
AJ
abhijitp
07-08 04:04 PM
No postings on the windows of those Bharat Bajars and Cash N Carrys and Kumuds. Can't the i-phone designers and router gurus make Ashas and Abhijeets invisible with some eye catching posters?
Something like this would certainly spread the word in at least the indian/asian community.
Also, PERSONALLY send out emails to linkedln contacts/ various yahoogroups/alumni groups you are part of. I just did that.
Something like this would certainly spread the word in at least the indian/asian community.
Also, PERSONALLY send out emails to linkedln contacts/ various yahoogroups/alumni groups you are part of. I just did that.
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